this is unreal. >> cenk: so there is some dispute as to why they seized her mother, we'll get to that in a minute but i want to share some numbers for you. a record 410,000 people have been deported in 2012 alone. as president obama takes some executive action and reaches out to latinos he does continue to reach out and throw them out of the country. now, these are undocumented immigrants. keep that in mind to be fair. now spending for ice that's immigration and customs enforcement is $18 billion. that's what it was in 2012. that's more than all federal law enforcement agencies combined. which is a stunning fact. why are we spending this amount of resources to do this? it's weird especially when you consider the politics of it. we'll discuss that in a second. now back to erika andiola's mother, who--who has a different last name arreola. she had a prior record for removal stemming from 1998. last month her mother was stopped for speeding and fingerprinted by arizona police when she couldn't produce invitation allowing police to refer her to ice. let me open this up to everybody. now t